APC and PDP are one and the same in spirit – TB Joshua reveals
Prophet T.B Joshua, the general overseer of the Synagogue Church of
All Nations has given his opinion on the 2015 elections saying
the exercise may fail to happen in a few states battling against the
menace of Boko Haram.
Joshua also spoke about the relationship between the Peoples
Democratic Party and the opposition SAll Progressives Congress saying
they are similar in spirit.
Read excerpts of the interview below:
There are so many troubles in Nigeria today, problems with
insecurity, threats to national unity and political manoeuvres by rival
political parties. What are your comments concerning these troubled
times in the country?It is a normal thing for a country that has a
bright future, God’s promise. A bright future always attracts
persecution, condemnation and enemies when it’s realised that the future
is bright; you will see a lot of pressures and threats. The country is
on the path to greatness; it will compete with any Western nation in the
future and the Western nations know that Nigeria is going to be a
giant. That is why their support in these trying times is needed. There
is no country that has not passed through this.
All the countries that have become great today, they all passed
through turbulence that nearly consumed them. How we manage the
situation matters. If we don’t manage it well, we will not witness the
greatness. It is not that the greatness would not come but it would not
be for our generation. The greatness will still come but for the coming
generation.
With the turbulence being experienced in some states of the federation; and the election just around the corner, how do you think this will play out?
Elections will not happen in some states because of the frequent attacks. This could affect between three to four states. The states would be a no-go area due to violence and elections would not take place in those states unless we move closer to God. We must intensify our prayers. This is what God has showed me and you can imagine what would happen if elections don’t hold in those states. It would have great implication for our democracy.
How should we manage it?
We should not allow the politicians to politicise all the areas of our lives. For example if you want to enjoy anything, you have to be part of their party – to get a job etc. Unless you are part of their party, you cannot benefit from things that should be available to you as a citizen. Look at electricity, health etc. – they have politicised everything. Even religion has been politicised; Christianity has been politicised. Politicians go to church; the pulpit is where they campaign now.
Even they go to churches and mosques to bomb them. These are people in church who had gone to pray for themselves. Must everybody become a politician? How we handle the situation at hand now matters. If the situation is not well managed, we will find ourselves postponing the great Nigeria, meaning we will not witness it but it would be witnessed by our children.
Don’t let us politicise every area of our lives. Let us carefully play our politics with keen decency because 2015 matters in the history of Nigeria. It is either we cross the bridge successfully or it collapses. A good Nigerian that wants this greatness should be able to pay whatever proper price that is needed to be paid to make this dream of a great Nigeria possible. If your being in politics will make this greatness come, then join. From now to 2015 is a very important period in the history of Nigeria and if we don’t manage the situation well, our democracy would be rubbished.
How do you mean … that our democracy would be rubbished?
A situation where there would be lawlessness – lawlessness in the sense that the law would not be capable of guiding us because of the pros (for) and cons (against) as contained in the law. That would now take so much time which would lead Nigeria to a discussion table. Where would you and I be at that time?
What can you say about APC and PDP?
In body we can call it APC and PDP but in spirit, they are one and the same thing. I am yet to see the difference. I am looking forward to seeing the difference.
The president has just suspended Sanusi Lamido and people are saying he is being witch-hunted because of his revelation on $20bn missing oil money. What is your take on this?
There are some agencies that are technical. CBN is one of the agencies that we should not play politics with or politicise. One, the head of the agency should do away with politics; the president should also not play politics with the agency.
With the situation in the country today and the agitation on 2015, what advice do you have for politicians not to create more tension in the polity and what is the way out?
The advice; many of us need to leave politics while many others need to join, in order to inject fresh blood. The people that need to leave politics are not the common people. This is in order to avert the disaster that could rubbish our democracy
The Synagogue is now like a tourist centre; what’s happening here that is different from what is happening in other churches?
There is nothing happening here that is different from other living churches. If there is any difference, it is the availability of abundance of anointing to meet needs. Where there is demand, there is supply, says the Lord.
With the turbulence being experienced in some states of the federation; and the election just around the corner, how do you think this will play out?
Elections will not happen in some states because of the frequent attacks. This could affect between three to four states. The states would be a no-go area due to violence and elections would not take place in those states unless we move closer to God. We must intensify our prayers. This is what God has showed me and you can imagine what would happen if elections don’t hold in those states. It would have great implication for our democracy.
How should we manage it?
We should not allow the politicians to politicise all the areas of our lives. For example if you want to enjoy anything, you have to be part of their party – to get a job etc. Unless you are part of their party, you cannot benefit from things that should be available to you as a citizen. Look at electricity, health etc. – they have politicised everything. Even religion has been politicised; Christianity has been politicised. Politicians go to church; the pulpit is where they campaign now.
Even they go to churches and mosques to bomb them. These are people in church who had gone to pray for themselves. Must everybody become a politician? How we handle the situation at hand now matters. If the situation is not well managed, we will find ourselves postponing the great Nigeria, meaning we will not witness it but it would be witnessed by our children.
Don’t let us politicise every area of our lives. Let us carefully play our politics with keen decency because 2015 matters in the history of Nigeria. It is either we cross the bridge successfully or it collapses. A good Nigerian that wants this greatness should be able to pay whatever proper price that is needed to be paid to make this dream of a great Nigeria possible. If your being in politics will make this greatness come, then join. From now to 2015 is a very important period in the history of Nigeria and if we don’t manage the situation well, our democracy would be rubbished.
How do you mean … that our democracy would be rubbished?
A situation where there would be lawlessness – lawlessness in the sense that the law would not be capable of guiding us because of the pros (for) and cons (against) as contained in the law. That would now take so much time which would lead Nigeria to a discussion table. Where would you and I be at that time?
What can you say about APC and PDP?
In body we can call it APC and PDP but in spirit, they are one and the same thing. I am yet to see the difference. I am looking forward to seeing the difference.
The president has just suspended Sanusi Lamido and people are saying he is being witch-hunted because of his revelation on $20bn missing oil money. What is your take on this?
There are some agencies that are technical. CBN is one of the agencies that we should not play politics with or politicise. One, the head of the agency should do away with politics; the president should also not play politics with the agency.
With the situation in the country today and the agitation on 2015, what advice do you have for politicians not to create more tension in the polity and what is the way out?
The advice; many of us need to leave politics while many others need to join, in order to inject fresh blood. The people that need to leave politics are not the common people. This is in order to avert the disaster that could rubbish our democracy
The Synagogue is now like a tourist centre; what’s happening here that is different from what is happening in other churches?
There is nothing happening here that is different from other living churches. If there is any difference, it is the availability of abundance of anointing to meet needs. Where there is demand, there is supply, says the Lord.
