The Secretary of the Peoples Democratic Party in Adamawa State,
Abdullahi Prambe, insists in this interview with HINDI LIVINUS that
Governor Jibrilla Bindow will soon dump the All Progressives Congress
Apart
from former Vice-President Atiku Abubakar, which your party considered a
‘big catch,’ are you expecting another big politician from the APC?The
PDP is democratically robust. We do carry each person along and
consider ourselves as a family. If you look at what is happening right
now, before the 2019 general elections, you’ll discover that a lot of
people are returning to the PDP, their former house. They have observed
that there is a need for them to come and unite themselves with the
party; people like Buba Galadima and others. Among those that left the
party before the 2015 general elections, over 90 per cent have returned
to the PDP. People like the Senate President, Bukola Saraki, the former
governor of Kano State, Rabiu Kwankwaso, and Governor Aminu Tambuwal of
Sokoto State.
The return of former Vice-President Atiku
Abubakar to the PDP has given the party a big boost. When Atiku left the
PDP, he left with many of his supporters. We therefore see the return
of Atiku as a welcome development. The reason we are saying Adamawa is a
PDP state is because if you look at those who left the party, a
critical majority of them make up the current administration in the
state. We therefore see it as a welcome development because all those
who left as a result of imposition and lack of internal democracy of
that era are now coming back.
Since we lost elections in the
state, we have been lobbying and telling these people to return to their
former house. Even when our members left, we remained optimistic that
they would come back because we have seen the merger, we have seen the
level of their governance and we have seen the way they handled the
affairs of their party. Their former party leaders have achieved success
and they don’t know how to manage it.
We have only few
people here in Adamawa that had not returned to the PDP, including the
state governor, who we have confidence that as time goes on, Bindow will
(return). He is just marking time in the APC. Just watch events as they
unfold. We keep on calling him and we keep on telling him that if he
wants to fulfil his dream, he should just come back to the party. Bindow
will find it more comfortable and easier to exercise his own rights in
the PDP. Therefore, there’s no doubt that he will join the PDP very
soon.
But the governor has issued a statement denying any plan to return to the PDP!That is politics. He will soon return to the PDP. It’s a matter of time.
You expressed confidence that Bindow would return to the PDP. Why are you so sure?We
are still in consultations. Last week, we went to the former acting
governor, Ambassador James Barka’s house and asked him to return to his
former house and he agreed. He said based on his analysis; the PDP is
the only political party that will sustain Nigeria. He also expressed
confidence that the PDP will reclaim all its strongholds that it lost in
2015. He said before he left the PDP, there was no consultation. Now he
wants to come back and he’s going to engage in some consultations. When
he left the PDP, a lot of people across the state followed him into the
APC. I’m definitely sure something positive will likely come out of it.
As I speak, we are reaching out to the governor and from the look of
things, something positive will also come about.
Are there grumblings within the PDP over the return of former members who are jostling for offices on the party’s platform?It
is very difficult to manage success. We are happy; a lot of people are
coming back to the party. But if you are to fully take everything into
context, you will not be happy because the party becomes a lot more
difficult to manage. When you look at the number of people coming back
to the party, they have one or two interests. And this is very tricky
and a bit confusing when one puts it into perspective. But being
democratic in nature, we know how to carry everybody along.
You
know there’s this issue of changing the name of the party. As a result
of this, it has been unanimously resolved by the National Executive
Council of the party to allow returnees contest political offices.
There’s nothing like spending six months before you are given your
previous status. Now, anybody that comes back is allowed to enjoy the
freedom of the party. Every returnee has equal rights just like any
other legitimate member of the party. We are not going to block them. We
are not going to be a stumbling block to them. However, it must be said
that the election in 2019 will be settled by integrity. This we cannot
deviate from. It is now left for the delegates to look out for people of
integrity that will represent their interests and also align with the
interest of Nigerians. That is where our confidence lies and we are not
going to discriminate against any member of the party.
What gave you the impression that Governor Bindow and other APC members that you are wooing would want to dump their party?In
the PDP, we see ourselves as a family. It is only the PDP that the
effort and contributions of each member is appreciably recognised and
rewarded. If you can recall, during the late (Umaru) Yar’Adua’s
administration, many people in the opposition were given some prominence
because he gave members of the opposition parties appointments here in
Adamawa. Same also goes for Goodluck (Jonathan) and even (Olusegun)
Obasanjo. The PDP accommodated everybody. In the PDP, you have the
opportunity of meeting with every leader, but with the APC, this is not
the case. In the APC, if it is not in line with the interest of those at
the top, they will just forget you. So many people left the PDP, but
the party still exists. Former President Obasanjo, who is the greatest
beneficiary of the PDP, left the party. The party still exists.
If
President Muhammadu Buhari is not contesting the 2019 presidential
election, that is the end of the APC in the northern part of Nigeria.
Bola Tinubu’s exit from the APC will automatically mark the end of the
party in the South-West. In the South-South and South-East, there’s no
prominent fellow there. With the defection of the Senate President, who
has a very strong presence in the North-Central, the 2019 re-election
bid of President Buhari will suffer in that geopolitical zone.
Therefore, in the PDP, we have that confidence that we are better than
the ruling party in terms of leadership and ability to involve members
in governance.
Are you saying that Buhari and Tinubu are the only pillars holding the APC structure in the entire country?Yes.
That is why the party is having a lot of crises. If you look at the
series of crises within the APC, they are tied to the President and
Tinubu. What is happening is that if Tinubu has an interest, it must be
protected, even if the majority will go against it. The same applies to
the President. The President came out at the NEC meeting and told the
members of his party that he wanted Adams Oshiomhole to be the chairman
of the party. And that was the end. If you can recall, there was this
difference between the Presidency and the APC governors, on who to lead
the party. They were at loggerheads. The governors wanted John
Odigie-Oyegun to continue as the party chairman but the Presidency,
which did not want Odigie-Oyegun back, went for Adams Oshiomhole. In
2015, the day the National Assembly was inaugurated, all of them went to
the International Conference Centre in Abuja. They were waiting for Mr.
President to tell them those they should elect as presiding and
principal officers of the National Assembly, whereas Saraki and others
were at the National Assembly. While those waiting for Buhari were still
there, Saraki had emerged as the Senate President and (Yakubu) Dogara
as Speaker of the House of Representatives. This marked the beginning of
the animosity between the National Assembly and the Presidency because
Saraki and Dogara were not Buhari and Tinubu’s preferred candidates.
Soon after, Saraki was dragged before the Code of Conduct Tribunal while
Dogara who was a bit loyal to the Presidency, played along with the
party’s leadership.
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